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19 March 2011 – BMW Motorcycles!!!OK, I’ve teased my readers enough with that last post When you mention BMW to most people, they think of sports and luxury cars. Some of them will know that BMW also makes some nice motorcycles as well. The ones who know about the motorcycles usually also know about BMW’s enduro bikes. Strangely, few of the people I know ever thought of BMW as an off road motorcycle manufacturer when everything I see online refers to them as one of the best. As I’ve said before, I want a motorcycle that will work beautifully on the road but will also go down the dirt roads (and other “paths”) I invariably end up on from time to time. Aside from places like the shooting spot down south, there are other places I’d like to go that my HHR would never reach. BMW motorcycles have raced in the Dakar rally and have been used on globe trotting tours like Long Way Round, Long Way Down, and some other insane trips like the BAM Road in Russia. If BMW motorcycles can take all that then I don’t have to worry a bit about most anything I’d put them through Some people have told me to just get a jeep, but that would miss out on some versatility and the point of making the new vehicle fuel efficient and rather affordable. New Wranglers get 19 MPG highway and prices start at $22,045. Jeeps just don’t work for what I want. It may sound strange, but the BMW is the more versatile and inexpensive option here. I spent a couple of hours at BMW of Las Vegas today and I had an absolutely wonderful time I had stopped by the dealership for about 10 minutes on Wednesday as it just happens to be on the same side of town as my dentist Peter had to leave before I showed up, but everyone else there took the time to make me feel welcome BMW has three bikes in their lineup that I’m having a tough time deciding between. Thanks to Kurt (one of the great guys there), I was able to get great pictures of all of ‘em including the red G 650 GS that was in the window display How about we get to the bikes The BMW G 650 GS is the lowest priced, lowest powered, and has the lowest seat height of any bike of the group. Its 652 CC, liquid cooled engine is provides 48 BHP at 6,500 RPM and 44 lb/ft of torque at 5,000 RPM. I don’t want to go with any engine that’s not liquid cooled out here – it’s a desert and the daytime temps could prove to make overheating a problem. Mark says his has a bit of vibration at highway speeds, but does just fine with the five speed transmission keeping the engine at about 5K RPM. The fuel injection works great from all accounts and the engine design has been proven from years of racing in the Dakar rally. The G 650 GS is not underpowered for the road or the dirt from what I’ve heard. Along with having enough power, the Rotax designed engine gets really great gas mileage – Mark says he’s averaging around 60 MPG in town which agrees with the claimed 60 MPG city / 69 MPG highway. True, the fuel tank only holds 3.7 gallons but that works out to about 220 miles per tank and there are ways to carry more gas if needed through after market parts. That low seat makes it feel either just right or a bit small from my perspective. I can easily touch both feet to the ground while in the saddle and keeping my right foot on the brake with the left on the ground is a real piece of cake. My concerns about the G 650 GS are that I might want more power down the road (especially while carrying luggage etc.) and that it’s more road oriented than I may like. It looks like a dirt bike compared to a K 1300 S, but it’s more suited to road than the dirt. An example of this would be the cast aluminum wheels and tubeless tires. If I weren’t thinking of going some of the places I’ve been dreaming about, it might not be a problem. Don’t get me wrong – This bike is still in the running in a big way! It’s got the fuel economy, low price (base price $7,900), and very likely lower insurance cost compared to the other two going for it. It also has a couple of really nice features that are pretty much standard options that its competitors don’t – heated grips and ABS which can be switched off for dirt riding. It’s low enough that I feel really confident just sitting on it and it does have that world renowned engine that’s reliable as anything out there Moving up to the next higher levels of cost, features, and power takes us to the F 650 GS. The bike that’s now the G 650 GS used to wear this name, but BMW decided to standardize their naming convention. All the single cylinder bikes now start with G, parallel twins are F, and boxer (horizontally opposed) twins are R. There are other engines in the lineup with different letter designations, but the only ones I’m looking at are the F and G series. This F 650 GS has a 798 CC parallel twin engine that’s also liquid cooled. This is the same size engine as on F 800 GS but de-tuned to produce 71 BHP at 7,000 RPM and 55 lb/ft of torque at 4,500 RPM and gets a listed 54 MPG city and 64 MPG highway. It’s definitely got the power and according to Mark (it was nice to have someone who’s ridden all three!), it’s not only quicker – it’s smoother as well. I could tell the F 650 GS is taller than the G 650 GS when I sat on it – the stats say it’s about 1.25 inches difference at 32.3″ -but it wasn’t objectionable. If that were really an issue, BMW offers a lower seat which brings the height down to 31.3″. It still has the same cast aluminum wheels as the G 650 GS which I can concede is a benefit on the road where I’m probably going to spend the most time. It shares the same 19″ front wheel and 17″ rear wheels with its less expensive stablemate, but it has more suspension travel. There’s a lot to like on the F 650 GS, but there’s also a few things I’m not entirely thrilled about as well. Those cast aluminum rims are one of them. Another is the 4.2 gallon tank which gives between 226 and 269 miles. That may sound like quite a ways, but my HHR can do somewhere over 500 miles on a tank. It’s easier to list the things I like about this bike than to detail those that I don’t. While the blue on the example available to me didn’t really suit my tastes, they do come in orange It could be the color, but maybe it’s the looks with that fairing and all its angles. Maybe it’s the spoked 21″ front and 17″ rear wheels with their dual disk brakes. Whatever it is, I should probably wear a bib to keep from drooling all over the F 800 GS While F 800 GS shares the same basic engine with the F 650 GS, it makes more power. This 798 CC parallel twin makes 85 BHP at 7,500 RPM and 62 lb/ft of torque at 5,750 RPM. Fuel is specified as premium unleaded, but I’ve heard it will run just fine on regular if you don’t mind slightly lower power. I forgot to check that out yesterday, but I’ll check the next time I head down that way. Fuel economy is surprisingly good compared to the other motorcycles I’m looking with 54 MPG city and 62 MPG highway. I don’t mind the extra power if I’m only giving up that few miles per gallon I was really worried about whether or not I’d fit on the F 800 GS. This is the tallest of the three GS bikes I’m looking at with a seat height of 34.6″ – 2.25″ higher than the F 650 GS and 3.5″ taller than the G 650 GS. I won’t lie – it was a bit tough getting my leg up and over the seat as I’m only 5’8″ tall with a 30″ inseam. I can reach my toes to the floor on both sides, but only barely. Remember that part above where I talked about putting your left foot on the ground with your right foot on the brake pedal? I heard someone call that the “Captain Morgan” stance and I laughed, but it’s the only way I’d be able to ride this beast and it’s strangely appropriate for a Parrothead As far as things I don’t like immediately, well there are actually a couple. The fuel tank holds 4.2 gallons which gives a range of between 227 and260 miles on a full tank and I’d like more than that. As I mentioned, the seat is a bit high, but can be overcome. Being the most powerful bike in this line up, something tells me insurance would be a bit higher as well. As far as the things I like, well that would be a very long paragraph indeed! A few of those items would be the power of that parallel twin engine, liquid cooling on the engine, phenomenal fuel economy for the performance given, it’s the most off road ready motorcycle in the BMW enduro line, and it’s darn near as good looking as some of the surfer girls down at Mission Beach in San Diego Yes, I really like the F 800 GS But then again it all comes down to compromises. Price vs. capability, power and cool factor vs. insurance costs, etc. I really can’t make up my mind! I know that’s normal for me, but at least I’ve got a couple of years to take this decision and bash it about until I can (hopefully) come to some sort of conclusion. What I think it will really come down to is a test ride. I’m going to get my motorcycle license before too long (probably in the next six to nine months) and then I can go rent a couple of these bikes from this same bunch of guys The two bikes above aren’t actually on my list, but they’re really rather cool Both of these bikes belong to employees at the BMW dealership. I apologize for not getting the name of the owner of that 30 Years GS limited edition, but I did get the name of the other owner. Kurt was the guy who helped me by moving the G 650 GS out of the window display as well as giving me suggestions and pointers Folks, I have to cut it a bit short here so I can get some sleep before work tomorrow, but I can’t do that without again extending a bit of gratitude That’s it for tonight, but there will probably be more from the BMW dealership soon – I just love lookin’ at the bikes 7 comments to 19 March 2011 – BMW Motorcycles!!! |
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Bought a ’77 750/7 when I was in Pensacola replacing a Honda 400F, first bike. Had a great ride with it for the next 14 years. Pensacola to VaBeach to San Fran to San Diego. Great commuter bike plus big enough for road trips. Burnt up under me after a random act of violence. (That’s another story) Didn’t replace it due to lack of funds. Miss it to this day.
Time to get yourself a new one
If I wasn’t worried about going freeway speeds, I’d seriously consider a new Royal Enfield
These are some seriously good-looking bikes. I don’t really, personally, care for the look of that light gray and red, tho. Just — yeah. No.
But Kurt’s bike is nice. Very nice!!
Am I crazy (or it’s an optical illusion) — are the tires actually smaller on the 800 than the 650? I like both of those, but color-wise, I’m more partial to the blue than the orange.
That light gray bike is actually bright white
And yes, I do like Kurt’s bike – especially that decal on the windscreen
It might be an optical illusion – the front tire on the 800 is bigger, but both have the same rear wheel size & all
Were money no object, The new 1600 Full Dress!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, if I were going to be a road warrior that’s what I’d get
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